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probably the biggest hire in the campaign. joe biden in august. and i remember when i learned that he picked joe biden. i was like really, joe biden. this is not -- this is a not-so -- guy. 30 years in the senate. he's almost seemed like everyone we were campaigning against. let me tell you that joe biden when he came in. i couldn't have liked him more. he was everything that you would think. he was no drama. the most unassuming interest to the campaign that we could have had for a guy who had the senate trappings. you almost didn't notice he came in. respect everyone. i think that's obvious, and there isn't a more bottom up kind of go than joe biden. he integrated so well in to the campaign. he was part of us, you heard how, you know, there were divisions within the mccain twain between mccain camp and the palin camp. we didn't have a camp. right, you could see the value of that kind of chemistry him coming inspect. had he came in, he actually -- he wanted to meet the staff. and he said you could tell how excited he was. he said, you know, -- you know, you guys are the ones that kick
thurmond i name is joe crespino and i would be happy to help you get to your next flight. he said are you sure you have enough time? i want to delay you. i said no sir, have plenty of time. so i picked up his bag and we walked together for about 10 minutes. i was just trying to make conversation with strom thurmond so i told him about all the people i had met that summer and he said nice things about the various colleagues that i had met in that kind of thing. i told them i was on my way -- ahead a girlfriend from florence south carolina and i said some silly comment about south carolina girls, i guess because it was the kind of smalltalk one made with strom thurmond. i got into his flight hanushek his hand again and that was it. but i thought about that story a lot as i have written this book because the story really is a metaphor for the difficulty i had in writing about or the challenge that i faced in writing about this very controversial figure. you know there is no easy or straightforward way to write about a figure as controversial as strom thurmond. sometimes in reading this book
and when i talked to her she said the thing that made the difference in joe biden versus her was foreign policy experience and she agreed that was the essential. she had several strikes against her but she was a good cabinet secretary. who knows where that might take her in 2016. >> and our third is senator nancy katzenbaum. >> she was the first woman elected to the senate in her own right. there was a political science article written 35 years ago about women in congress and the title was over his dead body and still quite a few women in congress -- some of the first women like margaret smith who was in the senate, she followed her husband who took that over, so she was the first two had never followed staff and that once again gave her a lot of attention and was a very highly visible race that was covered, even the london newspaper commented on it after the elections so here we have one woman in the senate, if you are 1-woman you get a lot of attention. two years after she was elected she was one of the temporary shares of the republican convention. people were already touting her as a
general, evil and i work in the office under joe missouri. it was john bullinger at the time caring about though that supported it then. i don't recall it was brought up last legislative session. if the west, i think me and my office support. in montana we really are, i mean, we are an independent state. we like to allow our own freedoms. the idea we are discriminating against anyone on the basis of orientation it's offensive to me personally and i think it is offensive to mainstream montana. >> mr. hill. hill: people who discriminate against people based on their orientation make a big mistake. i certainly don't and my personal life and i don't have my public life and i don't do my professional life. i don't believe the state of montana should not orientation to the hate crimes list and i wouldn't support it. >> why not? hill: i don't think you should take individual groups are not going to the hate crimes group list. my view about this is that a crime is a crime and if people commit violent crimes against other people, they should be accountable for that violent crime. and i don't belie
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